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 Be the first pioneers to continue the Astronomy Discussions at our new Astronomy meeting place...The Space and Astronomy Agora Revelations On Why Dr. Dick Right On Proper Time? Forum List | Follow Ups | Post Message | Back to Thread Topics | In Response ToPosted by Alan on August 9, 2002 07:12:39 UTC

Hi Aurino, Dr. Dick and co.:

Thoughts on entropy and Dr. Dick's geometry of proper time:

Entropy:

tendency to "disorder" (or "order" some may say)

tendency over time to disorder

Look at this:

"Time": you walk the length of a street, so a distance.

The hand of the clock moved so-far during this:

so a reference-distance.

The hand-of-the-clock rotated about a fixed point COMMON to whatever distance the perimeter distance of clock-hand-travel was:
so a self-referent distance (of zero).

An alternative clock is a pendulum: the self--referent distance is because the pendulum travels back along its own path.

Now, if the clock is your wristwatch: it gets tricky. If it was far away; you would have to measure how far away it was from each end of its own distance its hand travelled. Its self-referent distance will be encoded as a constant.
(That is, only YOUR WALK changed the distance you were from start to finish, from the clock's center-of-rotation. Constant: length of your walk. But the clock-hand movement changed as well, when you look at the distance from each end of your walk to the clock-hand-tip).

So time: distance per self-referent distance.

Now if you carry the clock, you have collapsed its center (of-rotation) distance from each end of your walk to zero; you have made the self-reference of the clock simultaneous with the length of your walk.

The length of your walk has become the clock's center; you have erased the "proper time" aspect by making YOUR WALK the proper path itself!

So Dr. Dick is right: clock's measure proper time; they describe a proper path of uniqueness when in the same reference frame as the observer!

The sum of all the distances of "you to the clock" have become a sum of zeroes when the clock comes with you. So the proper time becomes the actual path you walked!

It is hidden, because it is a sum of zeroes.
When proper time is collapsed like this, they call it "time".

But Dr. Dick says it is still proper time; its just that THE DISTANCE FROM ONE CLOCK POSITION TO THE NEXT CLOCK POSITION IS NOW MEASURED ALONG THE ACTUAL PATH YOU WALKED.

The proper time IS the distance?

Back to entropy:

Since "time" is "distance per self-referent distance:

you can use Chess game-strategies to find entropy
concept clarification?

Two Chess players: each has a game-plan that maps hoped-for move sequences several moves ahead say.

As the game progresses, the original set of possible alternative combinations in a Chess player's game-plan may disintegrate into....disorder!

As a word in a dictionary has its meaning tracked through layer after layer of other words; it disintegrates into many tiny bits of meaning?

A static object's non-interaction status thus breaks down in time (over interaction)?

A "living object" continues unbroken, as it continually recreates a standing wave of constancy (or even a growing pattern) when bouncing through a sea of new defining experiences?

Speed: distance per time

So: distance per self-referent reference distance

When you walked the length of the street with your wristwatch: your speed was your distance per self-referent reference distance.

The self-referent distance was your actual distance?

So your speed was your distance per itself as a reference distance?

So your speed was a path of self-reference?

So all speeds are paths of self-reference; of consciousness?

So when you add speeds you get differences in self-reference?

But when you add light speeds, you use light as your measure; so you get your light-self-reference back again? As a constant speed of light? From adding self-referent light speed to self-referent light-speed to get self-referent light speed; as no difference in self-reference?
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-dolhin