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Posted by Box Holder on March 21, 2002 23:18:23 UTC

the rest of your remarkswere what I was responding to
though I had preferred not...

We have some agreements...
Actually I can't comment on
deriving wave functions...that
was your contribution that I think
some peers in physics will appreciate

As for disparaging my understanding,
remember that physics does not even begin
to offer equations that comprehensively manage the variables above plant growth in complexity.

These levels have not been your career, nor most of your education in the main. You show interest...and so does everyone else.

When dealing with social science and public policy
in non-defense areas, accuracy and rigor are just as essential as in physics, along with honest recognition the scientific landscape is different than in physics.

I DO recognize varying levels of
opinions,
rigor,
urgencies,
point of view (ie. those with a desperate plight need not be analyzed as deeply for rigor as those trying to establish a scientific principle).

What I DO recognize is the right to establish dogma without rigor -- and rigor requires _fielding_ questions, not "dropping the ball."

Conventional wisdom is often far from truth in any discipline. Aristotle was wrong in many areas of science, though still admirable.
Physics and biology are not more esoteric than the understanding of human affairs...they're in fact protected by their jargon. The difficulties of being an expert in human affairs are compounded by the fact that there is so much noise
from the very elements (persons and groups) which you must fairly take into account in any larger theory structure.
How gravely shallow our understanding has been...
but only by comparison with what it is becoming, for those who advanced it are not to be faulted.

But largely, history has proceeded BECAUSE of the lack of scientific understanding in every situtation. Wars were fought over scarcity or whim which science would have made unnecessary... including psychological understanding
as well as physiological and energy knowledge.

Lack of knowledge has always contributed to policy formation. Until recently, our Congress typically would have no scientists at all among its 535 members. Few are there now.

It has always been true that our lack of understanding is part of our decision-making.
This is relevant to "God and Science" and, pertinent to a recent discussion, challenges conventional assertions in unexpected ways.

For example, why DOES account of Columbus-era behavior in the Western Hemisphere
have to depend on the written accounts of so few?
Think about it...why did less than 1/1,000 of one percent (.00001/1) contribute any written accounts? Were those accounts written by persons with a firm, well-known commitment to accuracy and fairness?

That, too, is pertinent to understanding the causes of that era.

Thank you.

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