Alex,

***But God claims to know all including quantum future.***

What Bible are you reading? The claim of omniscience is that God knows all that can be known. In the case of quantum events, there are many complications to this story. For example, is the UP a description of our lack of measuring capability (e.g., photons disturb the quantum system and therefore we can only obtain one measurement instead of multiple?). Or, are there hidden variables that we don't know about? Are there many universes where Schrodinger's cat is both live and dead in parallel universes?

The indeterminancy issue is not a major one for theists since if indeterminancy really exists at the quantum level (as I suspect it does), then the issue of God's omniscience can at least be satisfied by the fact that God can possess probablistic knowledge in areas where only probablistic circumstances exist.

I'm short on time here, and this is a deep topic, but let me just say that a large part of the misunderstanding comes in how we construe God to be. Not all views of God are equal on how they deal with this indeterminancy issue.

Warm regards, Harv

• Alexander switched sides without admitting it nor giving credit - quiet - January 11, 2002 - 23:40 UTC
  • Still, Alexander writes great posts... - carefuluniverse - January 12, 2002 - 03:20 UTC
  • You're a very intelligent guy - harvey1 - January 12, 2002 - 16:15 UTC
    • If you are an education official, you're insulting me, right? - spazcon - January 12, 2002 - 20:25 UTC
      • See, now you have me all flustered - spazcon - January 12, 2002 - 20:28 UTC
        • I don't want you flustered - harvey1 - January 12, 2002 - 22:53 UTC
          • It is time to lead chemistry back to a stricter way of thinking" - spazcon - January 13, 2002 - 01:30 UTC
          • True story of Scopes Trial and Wm Jennings Brian - carefuluniverse - January 13, 2002 - 21:48 UTC
            • should read 'Bryan' and...is it the "true story?" - quiet - January 13, 2002 - 23:43 UTC
    • Harvey, you are EXTREMELY right here. - alexander - January 15, 2002 - 00:08 UTC
      • Alexander tells what he learned for his "citizenship exam" (+) - carefuluniverse - January 15, 2002 - 01:08 UTC
        • Mike, as you can see I know USA history much better than you. - alexander - January 20, 2002 - 22:25 UTC
      • While his beloved Soviet Communists were doing this - carefuluniverse - January 15, 2002 - 03:25 UTC
        • Mike, did you forget the Great Depression era (1929-...)? - alexander - January 20, 2002 - 22:28 UTC
      • Are there forum rules for this kind of thing? (nt) - harvey1 - January 15, 2002 - 03:40 UTC
        • What kind of thing? - carefuluniverse - January 15, 2002 - 03:49 UTC
          • Michael, do you question that: - alexander - January 20, 2002 - 22:53 UTC