(1) According to the Uncertainty Principle, nothing can possess 100% position and zero momentum. In a world where time were merely a product of our imaginations, this principle would be incorrect.

(2) We might want to ask ourselves what we mean when we refer to "space-time," or "space," or "the universe," (or whatever). I think it's fair to define the universe as interactions of matter. Universe = mass & energy, interacting on micro- & macro- scales.

(3) Hence, all intervals of space-time are products of matter.

(4) Therefore, all intervals of space-time, no matter how infinitesimal, would be a priori uncertain; that is to say, every interval of 'reality' is restricted from existing purely as a position.

(5) We are forced to conclude that, if matter cannot exist wholly in position, and therefore space-time intervals cannot exist wholly in position, then the foundations of the universe include more than the system of coordinates we use to establish position.

Time is real.

-LH

• tell me about it! I have experienced time travel. - jisbond - November 16, 2001 - 04:40 UTC
  • Not time travel- TV control - yanniru - November 16, 2001 - 15:22 UTC
    • future time in a box? - jisbond - November 17, 2001 - 06:19 UTC
  • Ok then... let's here it! - smartguy - November 16, 2001 - 22:38 UTC
    • Embarrassing correction... - smartguy - November 16, 2001 - 22:42 UTC
      • I hate when that happens - harvey1 - November 16, 2001 - 22:59 UTC
        • Mee to - luis_hamburgh - November 17, 2001 - 00:35 UTC
        • LOL... - smartguy - November 17, 2001 - 01:15 UTC
        • I suggest a spelling be - carefuluniverse - November 17, 2001 - 05:11 UTC
    • brain chemistry - jisbond - November 17, 2001 - 06:28 UTC
      • JamesBond, this is just a hallucination (seeing future/remoting) - alexander - November 17, 2001 - 18:18 UTC
        • Do you believe in life beyond the grave? - jisbond - November 17, 2001 - 19:53 UTC
        • "hallucination" as "explain all" - dolphin - November 18, 2001 - 05:16 UTC
          • problem may be in physics - jisbond - November 18, 2001 - 05:30 UTC
            • Is there ANYTHING else except physical world? - alexander - November 19, 2001 - 22:37 UTC
              • Is There ANYTHING Else Except Physical World? - jisbond - November 19, 2001 - 22:45 UTC
              • Is There ANYTHING Else Except Physical World? - jisbond - November 19, 2001 - 23:00 UTC
• Time is an imaginary math coordinate - yanniru - November 16, 2001 - 15:28 UTC
  • How do you "see" a space dimension? - pmartin - November 17, 2001 - 00:18 UTC
    • You can't - luis_hamburgh - November 17, 2001 - 01:11 UTC
      • Nonsense - yanniru - November 17, 2001 - 14:16 UTC
        • That's induction - luis_hamburgh - November 17, 2001 - 14:45 UTC
        • "Seeing" dimensions - pmartin - November 19, 2001 - 02:52 UTC
          • BTW The extra dimensions don't have to be "culed up" - pmartin - November 19, 2001 - 03:04 UTC
  • Virtual dimensions - luis_hamburgh - November 17, 2001 - 00:37 UTC