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Posted by Richard Ruquist on November 8, 2001 15:16:17 UTC

We could have always existed. Then there is no need for a creator. Current scientific thinking is that universes have always existed is the most probable case. Therefore, no need to create something from nothing. There has always been something before. No beginning to time, for example.

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Rational? - harvey1 - November 8, 2001 - 16:37 UTC
- Very rational. Math (logic) does not prohibit that. - alexander - November 8, 2001 - 16:57 UTC
  - Your view is not clear - harvey1 - November 8, 2001 - 17:50 UTC
    - Everything existing obeys math. - alexander - November 8, 2001 - 18:24 UTC
      - Typical and disappointing - harvey1 - November 8, 2001 - 18:48 UTC
      - Does this mean that you have no answer? - alexander - November 8, 2001 - 19:54 UTC
      - Okay... once again (yawn) - harvey1 - November 8, 2001 - 20:07 UTC
        
        Origin of logic and thus math. - alexander - November 8, 2001 - 20:30 UTC
        
        It's good to see you become more 'warm' - harvey1 - November 8, 2001 - 20:57 UTC
        
        Harvey, play a child game to understand. - alexander - November 8, 2001 - 21:32 UTC
        
        set theory - harvey1 - November 8, 2001 - 21:51 UTC
        
        No, I do not mean any set or any theory at all. - alexander - November 8, 2001 - 22:03 UTC
        
        Alex - harvey1 - November 8, 2001 - 22:18 UTC
        
        Incorrect, null (zero) is more basic than a null set. - alexander - November 8, 2001 - 22:51 UTC
        
        Null? - harvey1 - November 8, 2001 - 23:40 UTC
        
        Existence of ANYTHING. - alexander - November 9, 2001 - 00:03 UTC
        
        Oh boy... - harvey1 - November 9, 2001 - 00:41 UTC
        
        Logic (math) works better for me than belief. - alexander - November 9, 2001 - 00:55 UTC
        
        More LF - harvey1 - November 9, 2001 - 03:24 UTC
      - Alex: a new way of solving questions - dolphin - November 9, 2001 - 10:04 UTC
- Rational universe is of lower probability - yanniru - November 9, 2001 - 14:34 UTC
  - Eh? - harvey1 - November 9, 2001 - 18:56 UTC
    - How do you distinquish real from imaginary - yanniru - November 10, 2001 - 14:23 UTC
      - Good question - harvey1 - November 11, 2001 - 17:00 UTC
        
        You just changed the definition - yanniru - November 11, 2001 - 20:36 UTC
      - Not exactly - harvey1 - November 12, 2001 - 00:21 UTC
        
        Clarification - harvey1 - November 12, 2001 - 17:25 UTC
        
        No cause beginning? - yanniru - November 13, 2001 - 15:40 UTC
        
        I need your clarification - harvey1 - November 14, 2001 - 04:55 UTC
        
        irrational component - yanniru - November 14, 2001 - 14:38 UTC
        
        Where did you get this interpretation? - harvey1 - November 14, 2001 - 16:36 UTC
        
        Essay seems to agree with my understanding - yanniru - November 16, 2001 - 16:02 UTC
        
        Does it, though? - harvey1 - November 16, 2001 - 17:37 UTC
eternal substance? - jisbond - November 10, 2001 - 02:57 UTC

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