It's turtles all the way down, as someone once said. There is no reason to think that god did not always exist, and that he/she/it always created universes. Any universe that is short lived will not produce black holes. For a universe to be long lived, it has to abid by the 'cosmic coincidence' of a well tuned universe. That's how you get a universe with black holes. It has to make mass,i.e., matter/anti-matter annihilation cannot be perfect, and it must last long enough for the matter to cololect into black holes.
It may be that like mutations, a vast number happen and die off immediately. But once in a while you get a universe with a long life and it produces black holes, and opportunity for many more tries at making a perfect universe.

On the other hand, inflation may make every try perfect. What I want to know is where did the laws of physics come from?

• The problem with this approach... - harvey1 - October 18, 2004 - 16:11 UTC
  • Steady State Theory of God - yanniru - October 18, 2004 - 16:31 UTC