Oh yes, the "turtles all the way down" theory. The problem with it is that if there is an infinite time in the past, then there must be an infinite number of universes (by extension), and therefore there was never a time when there were less than an infinite number of universes.

So, it raises the question, why are there an infinite number of universes PLUS a God who is busy 'making' more to his collection? It's a helluva lot to ask for the "Beginning".

I mean, maybe I'm wrong in this conjecture, but the "Beginning" is supposed to start out small and grow from there (like a small business that begins in someone's garage and becomes IBM). The big bang is very close to this idea. The universe starts out smaller than a mustard seed, and encompasses the massive grand clusters that we see in the universe. We don't have to explain how the grand clusters came from nothing, all we have to explain is how an expansion of energy/matter much, much smaller than a mustard seed came about.

It seems a shame that to explain that 'mustard seed' that we have to revert to explaining an infinite number of large scale universes. It would have been better if we just never asked why clusters exist to begin with. At least then we'd only be talking about *one* universe.

Why not look for a solution that is simpler than the big bang? For example, a quantum event?

• Steady State Theory of God - yanniru - October 18, 2004 - 16:31 UTC