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Posted by nåte on August 9, 1999 04:39:35 UTC

: If time dilation is infinite at the event horizon, how does anything ever get into a black hole?

this is one that has bugged me for one year now. :)

but after dwelling and studying on this particular subject, i've come to some sort of compromise.

you bring up a very important point, and if I may add to it myself.

How can any body ever collapse beyond the schwarzchild radii as well?

Classically the blackhole theory remains that of an infinite point that never ends; an actual infinity. I refute this and believe it is impossible to ever have an "actual" infinity exist in space/time.

I believe all that ever happens is infalling space and matter infinitely approach c, but never reach the velocity of light. Likewise, infalling matter, from an outside FOR, never crosses the EH, but only gets infinitely close to the border. And thus has effectively (for all practical purposes) disappeared. (due to relativistic effects approaching infinitism)

Also, due to Hawking radiation, the black hole in quantum theory is finite in age; compared to infinite in the classical theory. Because of this, imagine falling inwards toward an EH. Because of your local inertial FOR, you would not notice much difference as you got closer, but just as you approached an infalling velocity of c, the blackhole would have dissipated out of existence, due to Hawking radiation. Meanwhile, many eons of time have ellapsed from a stationary rest frame. That is of course from a quantum theory, if classical, one might suppose that as one is infalling, the outside universe comes to an end.

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