Right we have all listened long and hard to your rambling replies Tripp, please enlighten all of us with your fathomless knowledge. What IN YOUR OPINION are these things? If the answer is as I suspect 'I don't know but they are definitly not natural'.You are not really bringing much to this debate. I go along with gobeo, he has given HIS opinion now whats yours? And no general COULD be this lets have your HUGE BOUNDLESS definitive answer.