Not existence follows from space-time geometry, but space-time geometry follows from existence and symmetry (supersymmetry).

Although scientists still work on details about how space-time emerges from sypersymmetry of false vacuum, and how then supersymmetry results in symmetries of space, time, motion, identical particles, etc., and it seems to be completely mathematical process.

Does the fact there are no Santas or Zeuses or Shaitans to control processes and evolution of universe (as primitive humans once believed) still bothers you?

Do you still try to find gods - and right around every possible corner of the present knowledge, (as people always "predicted" and "expected" gods to be discovered in the distant and even not so distant past)? Jesus(es)/ evel(s) are coming? Still coming... still coming...? Where are these predictions now? Where are all those mighty Ras and Apollos which pushed Sun across sky in the past?

By the way, many present-day maya people still sincerely believe that Universe is ruled by numerous gods: by about 70 day-time gods and about 200 night-time ones. (More nigh-time ones because it is harder to see what is going on in the dark). Wanna join? (Sure, many things which you feel science have trouble with, will be much more explain-able then?)

Move on, it is 21st AD century around, (not 21 BC).

No philosophical speculations (no matter what labels and re-labels you try to come up with to justify the existence of Santas or some other powerful being) can deny mathematical rules (which we call natural laws) which universe behaves upon.

• Does this horse have a tail? - harvey1 - August 31, 2001 - 21:01 UTC
  • Harv, Alex: interesting debate! - dolphin - September 2, 2001 - 10:52 UTC