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Re: Blind Faith Equals Religion?

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Posted by Science=Religion on September 23, 1999 10:35:15 UTC

: : : : *** I would like to hear differing perspectives on the subject of what we are. It is my opinion that we are animals, and that we have developed a very complex mechanism which allows us to multiply our chances of survival. : : : : I have found those who belive in a supreame being who also believe that we are still a form of animal, and I have found those who reject the concept of a supreame being but maintain that we are something that could not have developed from any other animal forms. Of course then there is the general we are created as we are by a supreame being, and also the evolutionary theory that explains that we came directly from the first forms of life which branched over and over again, thus making us related to all forms of life on the planet from very recent branches like the primates to the most extreame distant reletives such as single cell life. : : : : I tend to agree with Darwins theory of evolution because it has the most physical evidence supporting it, and seems to be the most probable. : : : :

: : : bzrd here: The probability of a functional protein forming through a random process is one in 10 to the 65th power. There are approximately the same numbers of atoms in the Milky Way Galaxy.

: : RD: But bzrd, there are billuons of galaxies like our milky way in which proteins can form. On the other hand, I do not think it was entirely random. There was some intelligent creativity involved. However, it still took a billion or so years to produce the first protein. : : Ten to the 65th power is a very large number. Did you create it. If not who did, and do you understand how it was created. Otherwise you are acting on blind faith in science and mathematics.

: ***Yes, and billions is just the tip of the iceburg if the universe is infinite. Also, the number of atoms really has no connection with the probability of life, unless it was in the order of a countable amount. for when numbers exceed our capacity to comprehend them as is actually the case with the number that was scientifically noted, then our understanding of probabilities, chaos and game theories... go out the window. : Our intelligence only goes so far at this point, we can grasp enough to build theories around what we do know, enough for us to get use out of them for further theory building and practical uses, but to try to apply these to the reality of the universe as a whole is, um, I guess superstisiuos? : Like you said, blind faith in science, or anything for that matter. : Thanks for the good response, I've missed this place.

I think an important issue is raised here in the discussion between science and religion. Science (in our times) has reached a level where most people simply have to except what scientist are claiming, simply because the cannot grasp the underlying theories, let alone really grasp numbers like 10 to the 65th. Even the worldīs best scientist are only specialists in one area and probably donīt understand other areas. Not because they are not intelligent enough, but simply because a lifetime is too short to become an expert in all fields of expertise.

But when we come to a state where we simply have to trust others on the scientific claims they make, doesnīt science itself become a religion?


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