No. Your first supposition was right. But I can Not hand the answer out with out you knowing about Allah because Allah has all the answers including what comes before the beginning all things.

So you wish to know "Before the Begining".

You must first learn about a perfect God (THE ONE CREATOR 'ALLAH' WHO CAN BRING ALL THINGS FROM OUT OF NOUGHT) WHO needs not to develop or learn by experience. Can you do this first please? Because you have argued in the past that your god, what ever it is or is not, is limited by a need to experience and learn and develop.

jisbond

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        • serving ourselves through generosity and mercy - jisbond - August 8, 2001 - 03:47 UTC
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