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Posted by Greg Armel/">Greg Armel on August 22, 1999 02:01:59 UTC

nate: We have the choice and will to choose to serve Him, or ourselves. I don't think it would be a real relationship if that wasn't the case. But see, this is the case and point I wanted to make. Whether we choose to go our own way, or to submit to our heavenly Father, does in no way void His will for us. Whether we receive Him or reject Him, He is still glorified and His will "will" carry fourth. Yes, he even uses evil to eventually bring glory to His name. We are created by Him, for Him. But in order to have a dynamic and real relationship with Him, there must be free agency alongside his Sovereignty. Greg: God's Will "will" Be Done, because God has arranged this Universe so that His Will has the final say in what will be done. It is not His Will that we choose to serve Him, rather it is His Will for us that our will be done. His Will being done is assured, so it is His Will to see if our will is in accord with His. We are enveloped in a Universe of God's Truth, it is His Creation, so everything of Nature abides by His Will. Only Self-Awareness is blessed with the Gift of Free-Will. Everything outside the influence of the Free-Will of the Self-Awareness born of Creation is Predetermined, by the Laws of Physics, which are incontrovertible. WithiN the limits of those Laws, we are Free to serve ourselves to whatever degree we chose, but if the effect of our choices is detrimental to welfare of Life or Creation, then that results in negative reinforcement in return from Nature. If the effects of our influence is beneficial to Life or Creation, then that results in positive feedback from Nature. So God has arranged it so that we, as a species, do His Will, or we, as a species, suffer the consequences. We have Free-Will, but God Will Be God, and so it is in service to one another and to the other Life that we share this world with, that our service to Him is best accomplished.

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