Hi Paul,

Glad you are feeling better. I wondered about your posts. I thought I had noticed some when you should have been in the mountains. But, back to your comments!

>>>A more fundamental question is, how can we communicate at all given the self referential problems inherent in language? >So, with these pitfalls in mind, what can we say about creating mental models of reality?Now that sounds bad, but I don't think it is impossible.>'Reality' is harder to describe, but I suspect that each of has a notion of what the term should mean.>C. Reality includes our model of reality but not our mentality.>In summary, it is my position that your model covers all of reality that can be described in numbers which is the same as all of reality that can be described at all, but that it does not cover the thinker that is harboring the mental model in his mind. That thinker is the Great Original Dilemma.