Hey Harv, I read through the whole string and I think I am beginning to grasp the over-all concept.

What interests me about it is that it supports [or parallels] the concept of a transcendant Truth, that I posted awhile back. That is, there exists a Truth, that pre-exists the universe and is the first-cause.

If my conceptual understanding of what Alex is saying is correct, then this Math [if I may use the term simply for discussion's sake] would exist whether we chose to aknowledge its existence, or not.

Math in this instance, fits the bill, so to speak, albeit in a narrow sort of sense.

I am inclined to believe there is some truth in it.

Given this premise, how does one discount the possiblity that there are not absolute ethic or moral standards. To state it simply, whatever constituted right or wrong at this point in time, was right or wrong prior to the beginning?

Ofcourse, the obvious escape-hatch to this would be to say that these ethical concepts owe their existence to this mathematical order.

However, to me this would seem contrived, scince these ethical standards are themselves immaterial.

Brian

• re: Truth - harvey1 - May 8, 2001 - 23:29 UTC