Godel did NOT prove that math is irrational. What his theorem says is that given rich enough set of axioms u can bild a theory wich is completely correct, but to prove it correctness u may need extra axioms. So, in effect, he proven that actually, math u can derive from axioms can be more reach that the initial set of axioms itself. And it is always correct math.

About particles - again incorrect. As all particles are states of wave motion, u mathematically can NOT have their position and speed be precise - they are entangled by Fourie transform. What is the position of a wave with precise momentum? (Such wave is infinite). And what is the momentum of precizely located wave packet (= of infinitely small packet) - it's Fourie image (momentum) is anything from -infinity to +infinity. Just take a wave bunch with a certain length (=location) and calculate its momentum uncertainty using Fourie transforms.

• You are just saying that particles do not exist - yanniru - May 3, 2001 - 11:55 UTC
  • Why should math be complete (closed)? - alexander - May 3, 2001 - 22:07 UTC
    • Because incompleteness is irrational - yanniru - May 7, 2001 - 23:16 UTC