The real shame is that political elements use things such as this to argue about a religious founding. Whether the motto was added during the Civil War a hundred years after our founding or in the mid 1900s two hundred years after our founding (the link suggests some of both) it was not part of our founding.

As a matter of fact, one major reason many Europeans fled to the new world was to search for religious freedom and escape government churches. The first amendment to our constitution is violated when our government endorses such things. The second amendment is equally as important, which is on reason why I'm no fan of the left (politically) although many of my views may suggest this lean.

But when all is said and down the American public gets what it asks for. We choose our leaders and we deserve every ounce of curruption they give us, both in our political and religious institutions. We hate negative political ads, but studies show they work which is why we get them (duh). We hate politically correct corporations that assign delightful terms to terminating employees, but these PC terms seem to help with PR. We hate bad press and bad science and violence/sex on TV, but they attract the largest television audiences.

As you can see I'm running off the road, although it seems the road is everywhere when science and religion are involved.

• Where are limits of freedom? - alexander - March 26, 2001 - 19:12 UTC
• 1st amendment - evenstar - March 29, 2001 - 16:27 UTC
  • Youmake it sound like - yanniru - March 29, 2001 - 18:40 UTC
    • Religions with a god. - admin - March 29, 2001 - 18:44 UTC
      • Eastern religions have gods - yanniru - March 29, 2001 - 23:03 UTC
        • Eastern religions are more spiritual than materialistic. - alexander - March 30, 2001 - 00:21 UTC
        • Christianity has multiple gods? - jhuggins - March 30, 2001 - 01:45 UTC
          • The same in Eastern religions - yanniru - March 30, 2001 - 12:56 UTC
          • Yes, the Trinity - yanniru - March 30, 2001 - 13:00 UTC
            • Is not it a shame to discuss gods in 21st century? - alexander - March 30, 2001 - 17:57 UTC
              • Nobody asked you to discuss them - yanniru - March 31, 2001 - 01:53 UTC
                • Science is smarter than religion - johnpowell - April 7, 2001 - 21:58 UTC
                • Religion knows less than science does. - johnpowell - April 7, 2001 - 22:02 UTC
              • God Discussion - admin - March 31, 2001 - 15:51 UTC
            • Father, Son, Holy Ghost -- Mary? - admin - March 31, 2001 - 15:42 UTC