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Re: Re: Do Extraordinary Claims Really Require Extraordinary Evidence

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Posted by Richard Ruquist on March 9, 2001 12:35:29 UTC

OK. I think the opposite is true. In science, extraordinary claims have always been made on very limited evidence. The latest claim of supersymmetry, or rather evidence for supersymmetry, is based on very limited evidence of the Muon. In fact, most of the time, that is most of the data, shows no evidence.

So perhaps you could say in this sense that the limited muon data showing supersymmetry- well actually it in itself does not show supersymmetry, it's just a possible explanation- is extraordinary in the sense that it is not ordinarily seen. It happens infrequently.

So in this definition of extraordinary, that something is happening infrequently under the same conditions, then extraordinary claims come from extraordinary data. Science has always worked that way. Take entanglement. Certainly an extraordinary claim of entanglement, that came from one experiment- Aspect's- that now has been repeated over and over.

So the extraordinary data or experiment becomes ordinary if allowed to be repeated. But if extraordinary research is not allowed to be repeated, which is the case, then the data remains extraordinary and the normal process in science of making things ordinary is frustrated.

Would you like to talk about that. Or do you think that extraordinary experiments must be flawed and need not be repeated, as you have stated in previous posts. If so, then in my mind you are not a true scientist. Perhaps we could say that you are an ordinary scientist, not an extraordinary one.

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