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Posted by Sergio Sanchez/">Sergio Sanchez on April 29, 1998 15:44:17 UTC
: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Science represent a lot to Humankind until to you get : : : : : : to certain point.For a person with Terminal cancer : : : : : : for example, Science represent nothing Faith a lot. : : : : : : They are more than hundreds or thousands of been cure : : : : : : by Faith,documents by serious and good Doctors. : : : : : : Not all the time works because because we have not to : : : : : : much space in this planet for every human been since : : : : : : Creation start, and I said creation because you need : : : : : : first Creation and after evolution.
: : : : : Sounds like you are into Faith in a big way! Lets : : : : : have a look at this.
: : : : : As I understand it, "Faith" is believing in something, and the more you believe the greater (or stronger) your faith is? Is this what you mean by faith?
: : : : : If this is so, then it would be true to say that we all have faith as we all believe various things. (answer carefully here as this will show if you are really interested in a dialogue or a monilogue)
: : : : : If so, I guess I can believe that "Faith" can help people, particulatly people with self confidence problems (ie they suffer from faith in themselves), but are you sugesting that if we "believe" then that act of believing can physically change things?
: : : : : If so are you advocating that we have some hidden power that we can tap into with our minds?
: : : : : I hope you are able to give clear replies and that your replies are fairly to-the-point and not too long as my little mind gets lost if answers get too long and stray from the point in hand. May I ask (as it would help me) that, if you dont mind, that you address each question on its own?
: : : : : Thanks you. : : : : For me Faith is always there not less or more, : : : : is there just there I'm 100% sure that is something : : : : there that hear our prays.Not always things are the : : : : way we want,because He knows what is better for us. : : : : With pray and Meditation Faith can go stronger. : : : : Yes the Faith can cure physically,some times : : : : not all the time.For example when my Father 80 Years : : : : old was sick with cancer ,what I ask God, no pain please : : : : He didn't have any pain no need of medicine for : : : : pain.My sister was standing by his bed, she sleep, : : : : something cold touch her and said ya,She look : : : : He was dead,see I believe that because I have Faith and she didn't make : : : : it up. : : : : They are many Miracles that Doctors had written about : : : : You can go to a library and look for them, : : : : Especially from Our Lady Of Lourdes, France. : : : : M.D. and all the doctors are well part of Our Science, : : : : For example I have very good Faith in my doctors. : : : : I had some problems I was closser to died and they : : : : cure me.I'm diabetic, not afraid to died. : : : : I believe that is the answered to your question : : : : Why I did not ask God to cure me, because I like : : : : to eat a lot and not doing my part. : : : : Thanks
: : : Well,... errr... Thank you for want you have said. Saddly, you do not seem to have attempted to address any of the questions I posed, (or asked any of me)...
: : : Maybe you might like to try again? : : Try this one. : : Faith: Faith in something,yes something beyond us : : God, Jesus, Bible.Spirit : : Humans no way. Science,yes,not all the Time,it get : : to certain point that is helpless. : : Faith and pray,meditation can change anything, : : but it need to be whith in good source,people : : with good energy resource. : : Our brain,yes we have only using it 20 % : : We will have some power when we advance to : : better humans beings.
: Sorry you have totally lost me!
: let me try to take it bit my bit (I have copied your reply so you can see my confusion
: --- You ------- : : Try this one. : : Faith: Faith in something,yes something beyond us : : God, Jesus, Bible.Spirit : ---- Me ---- : Yes, but WHAT is it? What is faith? : ------- : --- You ------- : : Humans no way. : ---- Me ---- : Below you have said humans must have lots of "good energy", surely you must have faith in your own good energy. You are contradicting yourself here. : ------- : --- You ------- : : Faith and pray,meditation can change anything, : ---- Me ---- : What rubbish. I bet you would not say that Faith change God eh? And what about Peter when he pleaded that his "thorn in the flesh" was taken away from him and it wasn't. I fear that you are sadly mistaken. : ------- : --- You ------- : : but it need to be whith in good source,people : : with good energy resource. : ---- Me ---- : If the efectiveness of Faith etc depends on how much "good energy" a person has then who needs God and the other things you mentioned. All you need is someone with loads of this "good energy"! : -------
: : You see how I have tried to answer your questions here? Maybe you can try to answer mine in a similar mannor?
They are a lot of good people around,but I better trust the Perfection"GOD" that the imperfection ourselfe. That word rubish I don't think that is Ok when you are changing ideas, I don't said that I believ It need to be accepted by other people,I don't believe in the Big Bang,or evolution. I have my own believe about it,that don't means that I' right.I don't believe in UFO,that don't means that is Rubish what other people said about it. I'm nobody to said that I have good energy,I will Judge some day like all Humans.Perhaps I'm bad. Perhaps I'm good and bad. The good thing of all , is what ever exist We can't change it.And finally I'll believe like other Millions aqnd Millions of People A Faith is trust in something beyond us. When I said Pray and meditation,means to do it When Science is helpless.My brains are small but not so small to put myselfe in front of a Bus.Don't ever never test our Creator. And I respect if you believe or not is a choice.
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