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Re: Scripture And Science

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Posted by yanniru/">yanniru on June 22, 1999 12:46:58 UTC

: God did a marvolous thing when He created this physical universe. We can only try to understand parts of His model. I'm not sure what the string theory is, but if it doesn't match up with the account in the bible, I would put some more effort into fine tunning the string theory.

: About how long it took God to create this physical universe: seven 24 hour days (counting the one He rested). He created day out of the night so that we could see that it was one day (from the Jewish perspective, night is the start of every 24 hour period). He created the sun and moon after that so that we could associate the properties of both with night and day (day is the source, night is the absence of day; understand?). He then created the first human on the third day (not the last), so that we could see His design on this physical universe: time; Adam wasn't God (he couldn't exist outside the time model); therefor, when the days went by (in creation), they were 24 hour days (that same first human, Adam has an explicit geneology--who his children were and how long he lived).

: Yes, God did create the physical universe for us. Adam was split into Adam and Eve before God was done creating. He made the first human pure enough that they could procreate and fill the Earth. They lived long enough to do this because they had pure gene's, and there was a protection around the earth (a water canopy that created a hyperbaric atmosphere and protected from harmful radiation or bacteria).

Dear Hunter:

I loved you home page. I do not have one yet. But some day I'll put all my papers on a site. It will not be as fancy as yours though.

Regarding scripture- I was hoping to get into a discussion with a creationist. Actually, I am a creationist also. But a different sort of one. I believe that God created the universe and then fine tuned it over a long period of time, our time that is. A day for God may be a very long time for us. The Hindus believe this. So God did not create us and then leave us alone. God is intervening all the time. I see it in my own life. So I must reject your argument from time that the longer time evolution takes the more chance for error. It is actually just the opposite. God has taken the time to make us more like him. Occasionally evolution has gone astray as you predict that it should. But then God just arranges for natural disasters to correct the errors... Dinasaurs for example.

Anyway, my basic problem with the usual kind of creationism is that it is inherently anti-science where there is no need for that. Evolution is normally the focus of concern for these creationists, but there are more serious contradictions between their position and the understanding of the universe from science. The most serious problem is with light. According to you, I presume, it was created some 6,000 years ago. Yet astronomers can with a number of diferent techniques measure the distance to stars that are much farther away than 6,000 light-years. I have never seen or heard a creationists account of these facts. A forum on astronomy is the appropriate medium to discuss the creationist's view of the heavens as we see them. If the speed of light is indeed constant, and the universe is bigger than 6,000 light-years, much much bigger, then how can we even see the heavens. Something has to give. Either the speed of light is not constant and General Relativity is discarded, or the universe is only 6,000 light-years (in radius) and all this light that seems to be coming from a larger distance is a mirage.

My choice is to accept that God gave us science to come to understand him(or her). Why reject a gift of GOD?

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