: H: : Some of these positions are absolutely amazing. The mind's desire to live forever is powerful indeed. Religions rise and fall, creatures rise and fall, and we try to make sense of it all. Study history, study science, destroy all barriers, and let the teachings throughout your young childhood (derived from your specific culture) exit your mind. Talk with Professors of History, Philosophy, Chemistry, and Biology. Confusion, fear, "the unkown". We want to know, we must know, but can we. Do we. Perhaps those who claim to have the answers are the most dangerous among us. Find, question, ask how not why. : Greg: : So I ask you sir, HOW did the Universe KNOW in the very first second of its existence, that it needed Gravity BEFORE it needed the weak and strong nuclear force, which it needed BEFORE it needed the electromagnetic force? ALL the other Laws of Physics are built upon these four, which were created IN ORDER. So How Sir, did Gravity just happen to be the FIRST? : Now Sir, let me ask you, WHY, do you deny the plausibility that an ancient book of Wisdom, which was MEANT to guide men's moral character, not to be a book of History or a book of Salvation, might contain some allegorical hint as to its Truth, visible only to those who had forgone superstition at last? : I am a Taoist sir, The Bible is NOT my source of religious approval. The Tao was written around 450 B.C. by Lao-Tse. One of its tenets is that opposites, are one and the same. This understanding was arrived at understanding the Nature of Good and Evil. Evil is necessary to see that Good is in fact Good, which makes Evil, Good, because you want to be able to KNOW that Good IS Good. Good Intentions, often go astray, resulting in unfortunate outcomes, which makes Good, Evil. Opposites, One and the Same. : Now, if you will respond with just ONE instance of where YOU can show me where(HOW) opposites, are one and the same, I will say no more. Please respond in any case, because if you cannot, I am going to blow your socks off with a scientific understanding that was unknown in 450 B.C. but which shows that opposites, ARE indeed one and the same! Where you suggest I rationalize sir, I believe my understanding comes from another source. Perhaps you've heard of it. Its known as EnLightenmenT. :o) :

***I was wondering which opposites were in fact opposite and which were not or are not? Is this applied to things that have two major forces or parts or is it a matter of our perception as to there being anything other than the universe as a whole and we are just such a tiny fractio0n in the working machinary that time seems extended to suit our needs such as explanation or denial of mortality of ourselves and our species and our world and our galaxy................. By opposites mabey you are describing the reacti0ons of two or more interactions of matter within this multidimentional space? As an example, are men and women opposite? No, they are basically the same, yet have some differences, what about awareness, religions would have us believe this will always exist as far as we are personally concerned, anyhow, is the opposite the lack of awareness, and what or whom is it applied to has as much relevance as anything else. This good and evil and evil and good is irrelevant, for these are our creations, which aid us in daily living, and "trying to understand" along with all our other "systems" we attribute to the workings of the universe, and as far as an order is concerned, things simply happened this way and will happen in a differnt way every time it is done, for there is never an exact copy of anything, ever, the progression of events (our time) ensures that there will never be the exact same amounts, temps, pressures, motions, times, places.....thoughts........ Well, thats all I have to say about that.