: Seems to me like an awful lot of effort just to renew the debate between Einstien and Bohrs as to whether the Nature of Reality is knowable. I personally believe in Einstien's view that Nature abides by very discrete and precise Laws that are in fact knowable whether we in fact know them or not. Quantum Theory is a means to an end, not the end in itself. Although the Atomic Blast over Hiroshima was only a matter of probability, the ruin of Hiroshima in its aftermath attests to the fact that everything did in fact function according to strict adherence to precise Natural Laws and not just to probabilities, as everyone concerned with its achievement KNEW that it would. Quantum Theory works in probabilities as a means to realize further understanding, not because Nature works in probabilities. Nature KNOWS precisely how to behave, and when to behave that way. When it behaves otherwise, it is called a Miracle. Quantum Theory has yet to perform a single Miracle. Bend a Laser Beam with the power of your mentally collapsed quantum wave processes alone and maybe we'll have something to base this fuzzy logic upon. Myself, I KNOW that laser beams adhere strictly to the gravitational curvature of space, unless otherwise naturally corrupted, not as a matter of probability, but as a matter of fact. LONG LIVE THE HEART OF ALBERT EINSTIEN!

David: I'm glad you memtioned lasers. That's my old field. Actually it's easy to perform an experiment where the photons of a laser beam do not exactly follow the curvature of space. All you need is detectors that are sensitive to single photons, a two pin-hole screen and a laser beam that is so weak that it carries a sequence of photons rather than a multitude. Then upon detection of one photon after another we find that not a single one goes in a straight line, assuming the experimental arrangement is symmetrical. So by your argument, it appears that quantum mechanics does perform miracles.

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