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Posted by Phil.O.Sofir on February 23, 1999 12:08:24 UTC

: 1. The universe is created out of the blue.

: 2. God is created out of the blue and he in turn creates the universe.

: 3. Nothing gets created out of the blue. I.e. The 'family tree' of all objects goes on infinitely.

: : Number 2 is very similar to number 1. The only difference most religous people would claim would be that god is non-detectable by humans and is therefore not really in this universe with us. They would also argue that god controls most or all objects in the universe.

: But if this god was created out of the blue, why can't we just forget him and accept number 1? If you're religous and you choose number 3, why can't you accept that god is not needed in the equation.

: Pls focus specifically on one of these two questions in any response, thankyou.

: LegendLength

***Well, we cannot confine the options to our theories and combined knowlage, that is for sure. Our reality is in effect, a perception, we only have a few input senses, and they are far from complete as far as what is really going on in the universe. But it is all we have to go by, so we are bound to seek this direction, wherever it takes us. The possibility that we are progams of the cosmic system is as possible as any other theory, so many things we do or think are in fact virtually unchangable, in effect, we cannot do otherwise, however, if the possibility exists for some of us to purposefully change our programs, and we are in fact some form of programs, then to break these rules would make us a form of "artifical intelligence" which can operate with more freedom than many of the other programs in the system. We are in fact already gaining this ability, our hieghtened awareness can be seen as such a step toward an even further "independence" from the system, although we must still operate within it and under the confines of the "prime directives" or natural laws. There is nothing that can contradict this theory which is any more valid than any other, or is there? So, given this possibility, what then, do we just continue gaining our independence or the generations, or can we accelerate it during our own lifetimes so that we as individuals may partake of this "growth"?

I feel this direction is at least partially correct, and also agree with the all things have always been in some shape or form, that the "entire" universe is infinite, with the possibility that matter could be huge, but ultimately finite, and that the big bang and birth of this portion of the universe is pretty acurate as far as many of the assumptions it operates under, although cannot be limited to "thats all there is". No such proof has ever been found, and it is unacceptable to "assume" such a limit any farther than to "play" with theoretical possibilities, but not place it in the "factual" category.

To be subjective is to be aware of the reality that all things we know are reality only within a specific area of place and time, and that in some other place and time things will be unrecognizable in comparison with the current reality. :)

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