"seriously you guys"
"Proof" means what?
To prove say that a rock broke a window how would you do it? Maybe finding fragments of rock on the glass pieces?
The "one verse" (universe? ... ) one rhyme: things fitting togther AS A WHOLE; what created that (in this broken-window situation?
AHH i know: GOD created it; how do you know that the "fitting together" of all those pieces means anything, is coherent (Is already fitted together) ?? You know the rock and the window and their previous spatial arrangement and typical circumstances.
You know they are "one verse" (a match) because you know a wider view? You AND THEY are one in this prior viewpoint.
PROOF requires GOD to exist; so "prove God created the universe" means "prove proof exists created the universe"?
You cannot prove something twice unless by another way?
GIves: "two ways created the one verse" BUT one rhyme (Substituting "one rhyme" for "uni verse" (and "universe") as each contains identical basic defining criteria I guess) is "2 way" e.g. "Cat sat" can be said "Sat cat"; so to differentiate 'Two ways created one verse" gives "two ways created two ways" which means something else is involved i.e. a direction e.g. cat sat sat cat (Or "sat cat cat sat") so the said "Prove God created the universe" is like saying "direction"?
When the Master comes He shall put on an apron.
To "direction?" I ask "to where do you wish to go?"
Now I sound like God. Always at your service.................
am i Trying to be too clever?