Back to Home

God & Science Forum Message

Forums: Atm · Astrophotography · Blackholes · Blackholes2 · CCD · Celestron · Domes · Education
Eyepieces · Meade · Misc. · God and Science · SETI · Software · UFO · XEphem
RSS Button

Home | Discussion Forums | God and Science | Post

Be the first pioneers to continue the Astronomy Discussions at our new Astronomy meeting place...
The Space and Astronomy Agora
The Creation Model

Forum List | Follow Ups | Post Message | Back to Thread Topics
Posted by Harvey on October 6, 2004 13:24:30 UTC

If you take Genesis 1 and summarize it in terms of generalities, what I think you can deduce is that Genesis 1 provides insight on creation models in general. That is, creation on many scales, often follows this kind of direction:

1) Emergence of an emanation: Whether it be "let there be light", "let there be life", or "let there be matter/energy", etc, the act of creation begins in a significant step forward, almost like a thrust of new activity. As far as I know, there is nothing in the world that requires such a thrust of activity, the activity could be long and gradual, but in the creation event cases that I have in mind, it seems suddenness is part of the program. Another additional distinguishing characteristic of creation is the term 'eras'. The evolving system has 'eras' that is clear cut division points that the system dramatically changes after other emerging phenomena takes place.

2) Separation of key elements: Rather than move forward with additional elements, it seems that nature quickly organizes itself into some fundamental differences. That might be nucleosynthesis that separates protons and neutrons from other elementary particles, or it might be a separation of quantum fluctuations that later produce galaxies, or separation of planetoids from the nebula cloud, or what have you. However, separation (or non-isotropic behavior) is an early and fundamental consequence of creation.

3) Appearance of firm structures and other emergent phenomena: After separation of key elements, we see the emergence of firm structures (e.g., nuclei, galaxies, etc). Early on, a creation model requires formation of the basic structure of what is to come to become visible. Along about the same time, it seems that creation requires a rapid population growth of smaller key structures that are a direct result of the emergence of the firm structures (e.g., helium, stars, planets, etc).

4) Contact with the larger system: As the sub-systems of a creation event taking place, the sub-systems make 'contact' with the outside. This means that time spent in isolation is rather limited. So, for example, a proto-planetary system is shrouded in a nebula cloud, but solar wind will rather quickly blow the cloud away and leaving the new planetary system exposed to radiation of nearby stellar systems. This is especially important if humans are a 'creation event' since our separation from the rest of the supposed intelligent life in the cosmos may be shortlived.

5) Abundance of evolutionary developments: Once the sub-system has made contact with the 'outside' (or "Day 4"), events take place quickly and evolution takes over by introducing a whole slew of new sub-systems. This might be tons of superstring partners in case of a young universe, or billions of planetary systems in case of young galaxies, or a 'Cambrian explosion' in case of developing life on earth. However, what distinguishes evolution of this type is that it is limited by environment. That is, environment keeps the sub-systems from completely taking over the place until a hurdle of some type is overcome.

6) Evolution expands to a global environment: This explosion of new sub-systems inevitably evolves into sophisticated structures possessing the ability to survive outside its previously limited habitat and intelligence inevitably arises. So for example, the 'creation event' of machines took place sometime in the early 18th century, however that trend is moving toward intelligent machines by the 20th century, and possibly extremely intelligent machines by the 22nd century. Galaxies themselves may be seeing civil engineering projects on a massive scale in some areas of the universe.

7) Some kind of supersystem status is obtained: The sub-systems continue to dominate and it reaches some kind of pinnacle. The event might be a pinnacle and then a collapse, or it might be an evolution to a new kind of system. In the case of our universe, it might be a collapse back to a singularity, or it might be some kind of super expansion, or some kind of new era that none of us can imagine.

Follow Ups:

    Login to Post
    Additional Information
    About Astronomy Net | Advertise on Astronomy Net | Contact & Comments | Privacy Policy
    Unless otherwise specified, web site content Copyright 1994-2018 John Huggins All Rights Reserved
    Forum posts are Copyright their authors as specified in the heading above the post.
    "dbHTML," "AstroGuide," "ASTRONOMY.NET" & "VA.NET"
    are trademarks of John Huggins