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They Are Derived To Be Unrestricted

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Posted by Tarvo on December 24, 2003 20:24:23 UTC

> They are not ruleless.

No, they are meant to be unrestricted what means that within bigger system any system may emerge.

> Since they are a learning system, they are more like genetic programming than spin networks.

Wrong conclusion, it is not excluded that systems with fixed grid like spin networks may have some limited learning ability, these are cellular automata. I don't know though that anybody really succeeded to teach them anything. Conway's game of life can implement a simple Turing machine and at the same time it is self-developing, but it is another question whether development may lead to Turing machine because they are restricted in development. Implementing Turing machine also is not any solution for artificial consciousness because Turing machine implements processes sequentially while in the nature they happen massively simultaneously. Absolutely dynamic systems differ from cellular automata in that they don't have regular grid and so anything anywhere may become connected to anything, something like nonlocal connections if we use analogy in physics. Because of that and because of how they are derived, absolutely dynamic systems are much less restricted.

Genetic programming needs many rules, not just minimum number of rules like absolutely dynamic systems or even cellular automata. All the possibilities are generated by specific rules, and they must be complicated rules because genetic algorithms are not completely self-developing. They can do only what rules allow them to do, we must write a new algorithm if we want them to do something else.

> Since you claim to be addressing artificial consciousness, can you explain what your particular set of rules have to do with the function of consciousness?

This is exactly what Yanniry asked me and I explained it to him, so to not pepeat it here, please look at the end of this thread http://tkorrovi.proboards16.com/index.cgi?board=physics&action=display&num=1070550472 It is also explained in other places in the forum, in most general all these abilities come from it to be unrestricted.

With warmt regards,

Tarvo

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