> If you collapse the waves to the photon state rapidly enough, the waves never develop. It is the EM waves that travel at the speed of light in a vacuum, not the photons. Photons can travel at any speed. Do you believe waves exist. No one knows for sure if it is waves or photons or both, or Bohmian mechanics that exists.

I consider this your interpretation, of course no one knows for sure and so it's good to know different ways how it can be interpreted.

> BTW, did you notice that I already lost interst in your artificial consciousness. One bit of truth deserves another.

Yes I did notice, and better so, you seem to interpret consciousness as awareness and I don't want one more discussion about awareness and neural networks, there are plenty of these and so, I would recommend artificial intelligence forum for that. I even listed all AI systems what are not based on language processing and you even didn't want to talk about these. I even talked about physics there mostly because it may interest you, just to find out how *you* think it may be. But if you just are not interested then of course makes no sense to talk about it. But then next time you should state more clearly what you are interested in and what not. BTW this thread was not about artificial consciousness at all.