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Interesting, Yanniru.

Consider:

Two views on "1 + 1 = 2" as they are already 1 + 1, to know they are 2 requires a deal between you (observer) and them say...

I'll call "JIM": "1 + 1 = 2" as "1a + 1b = 2c" and I'll call "BOB": "1 + 1 = 2" as "1d + 1e = 2f".

"Discussion" model of physics:

Two people are debating the merits of each other's view on "1 + 1 = 2":

Strong argument:

1a + 1b reaches to 1f: (upquark)

Weak argument:

2c retreats to accomodate views of 1d + 1e: (downquark)

MIX 1a + 1b WITH 1d + 1e: which is 2c and which is 2f?

(strangequark ?)

1a + 1b mixed with 1d + 1e ALL TOGETHER end out leaning to 1f:

A charmed perspective:

(Charmquark)

2c looks back to get support from 1a + 1b mixed with 1d + 1e:

(beautyquark)

MIX of:
1a + 1b mixed with 1d + 1e
AND 2c mixed with 2f:

decision time? "time stands still?"

(topquark) You choose: your move.... "top of the world"

LOOP QUANTUM GRAVITY:

Go from strangequark TO topquark then BACK to strangequark:

The 1a + 1b mixed with 1d + 1e IN the strangequark can be: "Fischer sample?"

Which is 2c and which is 2f in the strangequark?

Which is "1a + 1b mixed with 1d + 1e" and which is "2c mixed with 2d" in the topquark?

Strangequark: where?
Topquark: when?

where? when? where? around this loop: if count a round trip: space comes together ("where" revisited) in a quantum (a meeting) via "when?":
One quantum of gravity defined so far only as a potential shell filled with but empty number?

Idea say:
Laws of physics are voluntary: like the floor in the final room in "2001 A Space Odyssey" the grid of Math is full of LIGHT...........................................................................................

Eight gluons:

2c view of (1a + 1b mixed with 1d + 1e) MIXED WITH 2f view of (1a + 1b mixed with 1d + 1e).

3 quark colours:

the "2" of (1a + 1b mixed with 1d + 1e) and other view (1a + 1b mixed with 1d + 1e) COMPARED with 2c and 2d

(so colour as uncertainty in defining which is 2c, which is 2f, which is THEIR MEETING (their two-ness, their exchange, the "colour in their discussions...")

3 anti-colours: where are the ingredients? More still in the twoness of the meeting? Or in 2c or in 2f? "What colours this debate say?" "What a colourful argument...."

6 flavours: A particular 2-view of the 3 colours "2" and the 3 anti-colours "2"?

"Do you get the flavour of what I am saying....?"

PROTON:

2 upquarks 1 downquark

"promoted view"
room to negotiate
the upquark has two options:
juggled by going back down, re-visiting the issue

NEUTRON:

2 downquarks 1 upquark

Two views of upquark:
room to negotiate
"up to you to decide where the going back down will be" (So neutral zone)

CHARGE:

?

proton view of proton:

as which downquark to use?

tension: down this way or down that ....

Time into space

2 protons repel as already defines space

between?

space expansion

proton:proton:proton: positron?

Neuton view of neutron:

which upquark to use?

Which neutral zone?

Two views of room to negotiate

"The atmosphere at the stadium was electric"

Who's space to use?

"Fuzzy" space?

space in space:

modifications?

electron?

Deciding where negotiations begin??

neutron: neutron: neutron: neutrino?

Periodic Table (!):

Sounds like:

One, Two: buckle my shoe;

Three, four: knock at the door;

Five, Six: pick up sticks;

Seven, Eight: close the gate;

Nine, Ten: a big fat hen;

Eleven, Twelve: digging and delve;

Thirteen, Fourteen; maids a-courting;

Fifteen, Sixteen; maids in the kitchen;

Seventeen, Eighten: maids a-waiting;

Nineteen, Twenty: my plates empty!

Think of "maids" as "1"s in the model; "kitchen" as a "2"; "seven, eight" : the beginning and end of so-called gluons (bind and loose: beyond the math illusion of gluons say?????)

Wonder why 19 constants in physics standard model? !9, 20 my plate's empty

THIS IS SKETCHY. SUB-ATOMIC PARTICLES ALREADY WELL MAPPED IN DISCUSSION MODEL IN PREVIOUS POST SOME TIME AGO.

THIS INDICATORY OF NEW WAY TO WRITE MAP. JUST HINTING AT PERIODIC TABLE MAP IN RHYME AT THIS STAGE: LOOKS LIKELY TO PAN OUT QUITE NICELY POSSIBLY

-dolphin