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Posted by Harvey on November 3, 2003 21:29:46 UTC

You say Jesus was a "liberal humanist," -- I am interested in how (you didn't really get into this main point).

The conservative view was the literal interpretation of the Hebrew bible (e.g., an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth). Jesus on a number of instances refutes the Hebrew bible's teaching (e.g., on matters of divorce, executing a prostitute, keeping of the Sabbath, etc). He was a humanist in that he was concerned about the plight of the people and said that the religious leaders lacked this kind of compassion. He wasn't anywhere close to a non-humanist in his stance. In fact, the Gospels are nothing but humanistic.

Harv said:"(which was the reason that Jesus' cruxifixion was rushed)." Jesus was not crucified by Jews, harv, but by Romans; therefore the process and speed with which he was crucified had nothing to do with the Jews.

John 19:31 "Because the Jews did not want the bodies left on the crosses during the Sabbath, they asked Pilate to have the legs broken and the bodies taken down."

No, modern Christians are not interested in the literal interpretation of the Hebrew Bible. . .in fact that is one of the main points of Christianity. . .they are however, interested in the literal interpretation of the New Testimate.

It depends on which 'modern Christians' you are referring. Yesterday the U.S. Episcopal Church ordained a gay bishop. They evidently do not hold to such a view that the New Testament is to be literally interpreted (since Paul condemned it).

Have you actually talked with Christians who believe these things you say Christians believe?


A good book for you: Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis.

Before you recommend a book it is always logical to find out if that person has read that book.

It might help you if you decide to do a little research.

Obviously you wish to pinhole Christianity into a particular set of beliefs that only you find biblical. Nothing you said makes me think you acknowledge Christian denominations outside the ones you are most comfortable. Would you acknowledge the Episcopalians?

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