While you were gone, Eric Clark had a long discourse over in the Big Bang forum. The result for me was the revelation that Jesus came for the lost sheep of Israel, as I have always been saying. But that Gentiles are saved by their great faith, consistent with the born again doctrine of Paul. Previously I had thought that the teaching of Jesus and the teaching of Paul were inconsistent.


So it has become clear to me in the discourse with Eric that such commandments as keep all the laws of Moses and as love thy enemies were meant only for the jews, for even Gentiles can love those who are loving, see below.

Jesus clearly distinguished between what he expected from Gentiles and from Jews. The message of Paul is consistent with this. Gentiles can be saved by their great faith.

But much more is required of Jews, and the reward is so much greater as well, to become sons of god along with the peacemakers

It's all in the following Gospels:

Matthew 5
[43] "You have heard that it was said, `You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.'
[44] But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
[45] so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
[46] For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?
[47] And if you salute only your brethren, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?
[48] You, therefore, must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Matt.15
[24] He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

Luke.1
[16] And he will turn many of the sons of Israel to the Lord their God,

Luke.6
[35] But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for he is kind to the ungrateful and the selfish.

Luke.7
[9] When Jesus heard this he marveled at him, and turned and said to the multitude that followed him, "I tell you, not even in Israel have I found such faith."
[50] And he said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you; go in peace."

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