is this the case?

"But since the measurement events are space-like separated,
there will also be an inertial frame
Frame(F) where Fred is the first to look for the electron. In
this case the state of the electron
when Fred makes his measurement is:"

All spacelike means for this thought experiment is that Fred
and Elle can't receive any information wrt to eachother
within one minute light time [which isn't going to be exactly one minute because the the clocks fell out of synchronization when they were separated]. It doesn't have anything to do with how events are ordered. If Elle makes her measurent first in the frame where the clocks were synched then Elle makes her measurement first in all frames regardless of where Fred took his box and alarm clock.

Ask yourself these questions: If Fred traveled .5 light minutes away would there be a frame where Fred looked in the box first? Why is there a frame where Fred looks in the box first just because he traveled more than one light minute away.

I believe that both models of relativity and QM are falsifiable. So far we havn't devised an experiment which has falsified either in there domains of applicability. QM and special relativity are married for quantum field theory [the standard model]. Its not amazing that this is true since the spacetime they are both formulated on is flat.

• Taking it a step further... - harvey1 - October 2, 2003 - 21:17 UTC
  • The light minute has everything to do with.. - bruce - October 2, 2003 - 22:30 UTC
    • Maybe you could clarify? - harvey1 - October 3, 2003 - 02:11 UTC
      • Actually... - bruce - October 3, 2003 - 04:03 UTC
        • How about we consider what we know at the two events... - harvey1 - October 3, 2003 - 15:18 UTC
          • The thought experiment... - bruce - October 3, 2003 - 20:53 UTC
            • Keep in mind.. - bruce - October 3, 2003 - 20:57 UTC
            • Isn't SR agnostic about these things? - harvey1 - October 3, 2003 - 22:11 UTC
              • I have to leave... - bruce - October 4, 2003 - 00:33 UTC