(2)the subconscious is not of this world, this physical world. Rather it is supernatural.

The problem I have with appealing to the supernatural is that when we look at history, all too often what was referred to as supernatural, turned out to be explained in materialistic or, at least, naturalistic terms. In my view, the term supernatural should be substituted as much as possible with the term nomological (law-like). Nomological can still take on metaphysical properties, however I think it better accounts for the law-like behavior seen in our universe. In that sense, I think there might be nomological properties to a collective social conscious. For example, apocalyptic thinking might result from a nomological tendency of our civilization to move in that 'end days' direction as well as a deep subconscious belief that such an apocalypse is unavoidable. Humans may conduct their lives under such terms (e.g., Star Wars strategies, allowance of global warming tendencies, wide acceptance of mass extinction of species, etc).

• The term 'supernatural' does contain a charge - yanniru - August 6, 2003 - 16:15 UTC
  • More problems with supernatural - harvey1 - August 7, 2003 - 03:06 UTC
    • How about superconductor - yanniru - August 7, 2003 - 13:31 UTC
      • Super duper - harvey1 - August 7, 2003 - 15:07 UTC
        • Natural to me refers to nature - yanniru - August 7, 2003 - 16:52 UTC
          • Nature and natural - harvey1 - August 7, 2003 - 19:44 UTC
            • Correction - harvey1 - August 7, 2003 - 19:47 UTC
              • Let's suppose - yanniru - August 8, 2003 - 01:01 UTC
                • Very intricate question - harvey1 - August 8, 2003 - 02:53 UTC
                  • You did not accept the premise - yanniru - August 8, 2003 - 11:53 UTC
                    • Well... - harvey1 - August 8, 2003 - 14:29 UTC
                      • One important correction - harvey1 - August 8, 2003 - 14:43 UTC
                        • You certainly are consistent - yanniru - August 8, 2003 - 14:57 UTC
                          • I was just getting warmed up - harvey1 - August 8, 2003 - 15:02 UTC
                            • You can discuss this stuff with ......! - quiet - August 8, 2003 - 20:41 UTC
                              • .anonymous strangers who can delete your posts and "shun" you ! - quiet - August 9, 2003 - 21:21 UTC
                        • One additional correction - harvey1 - August 8, 2003 - 14:59 UTC
                        • I enjoyed your discussion. - duordi - August 9, 2003 - 19:40 UTC