Hi Paul
Your counter-arguments were so weak that I realize you don't really oppose the points in that thread. Since I accidentally selected "hide"
whomi, I can't see our thread past where I entered it, until the webmaster restores me to "unhide" or whatever.
It would be interesting to read strong arguments
but I don't think a prevailing argument exists.
It's interesting that your "optomism" is merely that the jury will return a complimentary verdict about humanity's greatness of insight...that was the context anyway.
Sincerely,
Mike