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Threshld Of Self-consciousness

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Posted by Richard Ruquist on May 25, 2003 21:41:22 UTC

Kyle,

I do suspect that there is a threshold of complexity for self-awareness. Chimps, dolphins and humans seem to have passed it and maybe some advanced dogs, but not lower (less complex) forms of life.

A level of complexity reminds me of Goedel's incompleteness theorem which applies only to systems that exceed a certain level of complexity.

Goedel's threshold seems rather low as it is somewhere between plane geomtry, a complete system, and arithmetic, an incomplete one.

My intuition says that such a level of complexity must be surpassed before a non-local consciousness can be achieved, or rather communicated and received.

Following Goedel, it is suggesting that the level for non-local consciousness access is the same as self-awareness. But that is my intuition just guessing.

yanniru

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