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Posted by Duane Eddy on May 20, 2003 21:19:20 UTC

I disagree

Thought experiment

A man, a cat, a machine, and three birds.

A person a cat and a computer are given training and raw materials as required to survive.

The man the cat and the machine are placed on three separate islands a bird is also placed on each island.

All six are given immorality.

The man which is aware of himself will also attempt to be aware of the bird by imagining what it would be like to be a bird.
Given enough time the man will develop a way to fly.

The cat will not develop a way to fly.
The cat will not be aware of itself or imagine it is a bird.

The only difference between the cant and the machine is the machine has almost 100% efficient memory storage and computation speed thousands of times faster.
If the machine is not aware of itself it will not develop a way to fly.
If the machine is not aware of itself it will not imagine itself as a bird.

Conclusion:
Awareness does require, but is independent of, memory, ability to make decisions and any other qualities a cat has.

Therefore awareness is not an arrangment of knowledge.



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