Mike,
with respect to the Iraq lie link, i was shocked.

i ask myself virtualy the same question that you posted, i shall quote sir:

"I am a loyal American with military experience,
not interested in converting to Islam or Communism...are lies a fair way to build support for a war?"

the answer is of course no.

further one might ask is it sometimes true that the end justifies the means.

my answer is yes.

point of discussion if the Iraq lie is infact a lie it was unfair. further our attack on Iraq was justified if Iraq's invasion of Kuwait was unjustified and violent.

"Do not be held a cheat, even though it is impossible to live today without being one. Let your greatest cunning lie in covering up what looks like cunning."
Baltasar Gracian, 1601-1658

regards, tim