I don't know if any of ya'll remember me, but I am an old poster here. I have had something on my mind for the last few weeks. I was thinking about right and wrong. You see, what is considered to be right and what is considered to be wrong was determined by God. The things that He thinks are bad are sins.

The first sin we know of was committed by Lucifer. He basically told God was that He was good enough to be God too. This first sin recieved a horrible punishment-- to be stuck in hell for all of eternity.

The next two sins we know of were committed by to completely innocent people...They had NO idea of the consequences. They recieved an extreme punishment too. Eve was to have to go through more pain when giving birth; They were kicked out of the garden of eden; and they were both sentenced to death(they were most likely eternal in the garden). We aren't even sure if the first to humans went to heaven or to hell.

And the most important thing of all: The worst punishment that God gave Adam and Eve was that all of his punishments would carry down to their decendents. So we get punished for something we didn't do. Is this the "rock" that we want to found our moral decisions on?

After Jesus came, all you had to do to get to heaven was believe. You could've killed. It doesn't matter. All you have to do is believe Jesus is the Son of God and the only way to get to heaven and your in. Can you see the double standard? Why were they treated so unbelievably harsh when they had no idea of reality, sin, or anything bad, but we who live in sin every day only have to want forgiveness and ask for it to go to heaven?

I am only trying to look at this from a logical point of view. I just am looking at the way God treated the first of humanity and the way He treats us now...hypocracy comes to mind if the bible speaks the truth.


Warm Regards,

Chris

P.S. I love it when I think of something logically incorrect about the bible that I can throw in the fundamentalists' faces.

• Paul changed the religion - yaniru - February 4, 2003 - 07:28 UTC
  • That is (forgive the term) several delusional statements - quiet - February 6, 2003 - 16:05 UTC
    • Thank you for being quiet - yaniru - February 6, 2003 - 17:28 UTC
      • And Paul said - yaniru - February 6, 2003 - 17:45 UTC
        • Paul's requirement for salvation - yaniru - February 6, 2003 - 17:52 UTC
      • Your standard of algebra is too sloppy - carefuluniverse - February 7, 2003 - 00:56 UTC
      • Sorry - yaniru - February 7, 2003 - 01:58 UTC
        • "you realize of course" IS NOT an accepted form of proof - carefuluniverse - February 7, 2003 - 20:55 UTC
          • His only new comandment - yaniru - February 8, 2003 - 00:20 UTC
            • 613? - daredevil - February 8, 2003 - 13:36 UTC
              • The most important commandments according to Jesus - yaniru - February 8, 2003 - 18:50 UTC
                • Dissing the 613 - carefuluniverse - February 9, 2003 - 00:35 UTC
                  • Matthew 19 - yaniru - February 9, 2003 - 03:45 UTC
                    • Yes to Matthew 19; no to your misuse of it - carefuluniverse - February 9, 2003 - 14:38 UTC
            • Jesus told truth. R. should try it more. - carefuluniverse - February 9, 2003 - 00:32 UTC
            • In response to your question, Yanniru (et al) - carefuluniverse - February 10, 2003 - 01:12 UTC
              • Do not even the Gentiles do the same? - yaniru - February 10, 2003 - 16:43 UTC
  • Back again. - isaiah41 - February 8, 2003 - 19:20 UTC
    • Blood can only be shed under certtain conditions - yaniru - February 9, 2003 - 00:22 UTC
      • Those were the days.... - isaiah41 - February 9, 2003 - 02:49 UTC