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Gods? We Don't Need No Stickin' Gods

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Posted by Phillip Martin on October 24, 2002 00:42:30 UTC

"God is the 'driver' of the universe..."

Ahh, I remember the 'driver' discussions from when I first began to post in these forums a year ago. What ever happened to the Russian fellow... Alexander, if my memory serves me right?

"Depending how you define the term 'calculate'..."

I meant calculate in its most basic form. When this atom hits this one, they move like this, and gain this much heat, etc. The way I see it, the fact that any law can be proven means that the universe is based on laws, and that no law can be proven wrong. Where a law is a rule that is necessary to the functioning of the universe. To deny that is to deny that there are laws, which is, unless I am mistaken, the basis of religion. God is all-powerful, and can create and destroy all laws that He wants. That makes no law provable, under religions inwolving any god. Thus proving that either no God exists, or that he doesn't break laws.

"If you mean everything that exists or could exist or did exist..."

I meant 'everything that exists, existed, or will exist.'

I feel that we are discussing the fundamentals of our beliefs, and that, probably, we will not be able to discuss them much further because our opinions will be based purely on speculation. But, this may not be the case, who am I to know?

Warm Regards,

Phillip Martin

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