Thank you. On the other hand, you are posting some good biology comments. From outside, it seemed clear to me that they are using debating ploys of a type which simply aren't allowed in science any more than crying helps repair a broken toy.
I feel we are in need of a new theology but not one made by celebrities beating their chests about how they've been right all along. Debates like the one we've been seeing are possibly about trying to protect untenable positions because they didn't trust God and our goodwill to still love them even though their opinions about biology need to "evolve" and their theology has to be rethought. They're not paying us to give them sparring practice, and sparring is all they're doing, not loving, I think. However,
they are beings who should be familiar with love.