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Posted by Ivan on October 9, 2002 22:25:46 UTC

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Can you name anywhere where this Church and State combination has been successful? There's almost 7,000 years of recorded history, and I cannot think of any exceptions.
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I agree totally with you that Christian, Sunni, Shia, and all Clergy-based Church/State combinations have been unsuccessful without an exception.

The only one that has been and will be successful is the one that promotes YOUR MIND AS YOUR CHURCH.

Again, the best system is God's natural system not that of the clergy. That is why the founding fathers of our country succeeded. They applied God's natural law (not the clergy or the majority's law as some would have you think).

Thanks and all best wishes.

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