Scott,

Let me just add my comments to Mike's comments.

***Scott, this is not working very well.***

I agree, I think you should have one identity and be honest and open-minded in that one identity.

***1) You misrepresent someone's point of view and then debate with the phantom you created.***

I think whenever you are tongue and cheek it is enormously difficult to know your underlying point.

***2) You aren't talking with the folks you're supposedly trying to convince.***

Exactly.

***3) You're making some of your allies mad.***

I wouldn't use the term allies or them getting mad, but I don't get the point of being someone else.

***4) You identify the weak point of the other side, and then just beat it to death. That's okay in debate but not scientific debate...you're not getting at any truth beyond the point you made the first time.***

Very true.

***Those habits are as much of a threat to academics and intellectuals as any other form of ignorance. If you don't believe it, fine. Belief is not the point. What I've just addressed is not about belief. It's about pulling your head out of your Language Removed and thinking instead of spewing cliche's.***

Not my choice of language, but my ideal picture of the world (at least this forum), is a forum where we actually mean what we say and are actually expressing our own unique thoughts. Jokes are fine, but alter ego's...?

I hope I didn't offend you. I like what Scott has to say. I find his ideas more than enough to get points across.

Warm regards, Harv

• Harv! - darwinpoodle - May 24, 2002 - 18:22 UTC
  • You asked, right? - harvey1 - May 24, 2002 - 19:28 UTC
    • Fine - darwinpoodle - May 24, 2002 - 19:34 UTC
      • Cliff can do whatever 'he' wants (nt) - harvey1 - May 24, 2002 - 21:07 UTC
        • But if Cliff commits a serious crime, Harv's arrested - occupant - May 25, 2002 - 17:20 UTC
• Well... - stormcrow - May 24, 2002 - 18:39 UTC
  • True - harvey1 - May 24, 2002 - 19:13 UTC
    • Harv's "True" and "Not True" are sometimes exactly the same - occupant - May 24, 2002 - 19:31 UTC
      • occupant/carefuluniverse/spazcon/quiet - stormcrow - May 24, 2002 - 19:58 UTC
        • you're becoming gentler.. - occupant - May 24, 2002 - 20:10 UTC
          • Conduct of life - stormcrow - May 24, 2002 - 21:44 UTC
            • run for it - occupant - May 24, 2002 - 22:12 UTC
      • Here is what I think... - darwinpoodle - May 24, 2002 - 19:59 UTC
        • you are probably the network of which you speak. - occupant - May 24, 2002 - 20:16 UTC
        • here's what you thought six weeks ago. - occupant - May 24, 2002 - 21:02 UTC