Before this debate goes any further, I need to ask you a question that ends 90% of religious debates on this issue:

Do you say that faith is irrational?

If yes [that is, you don't need proof to believe] then we can end this now and go our seperate, ways, or I can try to convince you that that irrationality is a drawback.

If you say no, I'd be surprised.

• Faith is rational - harvey1 - May 13, 2002 - 21:41 UTC
  • Only to the extent that Valium is rational - stormcrow - May 13, 2002 - 21:59 UTC
    • Your view - kc2gwx - May 14, 2002 - 00:35 UTC
      • No - stormcrow - May 14, 2002 - 00:53 UTC
    • Can't be - harvey1 - May 14, 2002 - 01:48 UTC
      • Again Harv, there is a difference between faith and good guesses - stormcrow - May 14, 2002 - 02:05 UTC
        • You're right, let's continue where we left off - harvey1 - May 14, 2002 - 03:27 UTC
          • Tomorrow Evening - stormcrow - May 14, 2002 - 06:19 UTC
          • Okay, here we go again - stormcrow - May 15, 2002 - 04:29 UTC
            • whoops - stormcrow - May 15, 2002 - 04:32 UTC
            • Externalist views of truth - harvey1 - May 16, 2002 - 11:57 UTC