Hi Mike,

***The content of thought can be called an off shoot of physical processes***

Actually, I do agree with this statement literally. I also agree with the statement, "The content of fire can be called Phlogiston." I know that second statement is true because the content of fire was called Phlogiston by some pretty smart people for quite a while.

But you know what I mean. I mean that I am quite convinced that thought is not the off-shoot of physical processes. I am well aware that almost everyone else, both smart and dumb, think that thought is an emergent phenomenon of physical complexity. I think they are all wrong.

In fact, I think it is exactly the other way around. Physical processes are the off-shoot of thought.

If we had a shoot-off on the question, I would have to show how thought can produce physical processes. The other guys would have to show how physical processes can produce thought. I think I would win.

Just this morning, I sketched out for Alan at

http://www.astronomy.net/forums/god/messages/17019.shtml

how my claim might be possible. I have never heard anyone explain how the reverse could be possible.

Think about this. If I am right, and each of our consciousnesses is really part of the one-and-only consciousness that is busy creating this world of ours, wouldn't that give us an awesome responsibility on how we influence changes in the landscape?

Warm regards,

Paul

• I'll look it over - spazcon - May 6, 2002 - 21:20 UTC
  • I'm not out to persuade you of anything... - pmartin - May 7, 2002 - 00:14 UTC
    • If it's obvious, I'll just delegate...I'm obviously going broke! - spazcon - May 7, 2002 - 04:53 UTC
      • It's your choice - pmartin - May 7, 2002 - 05:31 UTC
        • Is it the Treatis concerning the Principles of Human Knowledge? - quiet - May 9, 2002 - 05:22 UTC
• in fact, will copy it right now in case of earthquake ! - spazcon - May 6, 2002 - 21:21 UTC
  • the earthquake is more like a dumslide ! - spazcon - May 7, 2002 - 05:05 UTC
    • I don't get it - pmartin - May 7, 2002 - 05:36 UTC
      • I hope not - spazcon - May 7, 2002 - 06:24 UTC