Yanniru wrote
"There is no element of randomness in the scripture of Job."

big whoop .. not a very "rigorous" appraisal.
I was never saying Job must be believed as I understand it. You are tilting at windmills
and loving it, right?

Yanniru wrote:
"First of all, randomness is not run by math. . Just the same as nature is not run by math, notwithstanding Alexander's claims.

Math can describe how nature behaves, but it does not control it. "

Occupant replies,
Hey, I've said that myself and argued with Alexander about it. How come you're implying I hold the opposite view? Because you forgot?

Yanniru wrote:
"Regarding randomness- we know that a great deal of nature, especially turbulent systems like the weather, are random. That means to me that there could not be an intelligent being controlling it. "

Occupant responds:
Mark Twain: "Given a thimblefull of facts, we rush to make generalizations that would fill a bathtub."

Being a career government laser physicist does not make you the authority on management. And management is what a purported Deity does or doesn't do, right? Your disproof of Deityhood
rests on false assumptions, even if there WERE a non-Deity whose existence merits proving.
For one thing, "Control" in management does not always mean tight control, as long as legal and safety requirements are heeded.
You also don't display a tight understanding of the various meanings of the word random.
"Statistically random" is the definition of "random" that we're concerned with in science.

Understanding nature hinges on it, but not alone among the terms.

Nice try, but just because you are 100 years old does not make you more of an expert on the 12 billion year universe than anyone younger.


Thank you.

• Are you expert on management? - yanniru - March 22, 2002 - 14:50 UTC
  • in regard to your questions - carefuluniverse - March 22, 2002 - 19:23 UTC
    • Sorry-I take the vacate back - yanniru - March 23, 2002 - 00:38 UTC
      • What you just said does not earn my assent - carefuluniverse - March 23, 2002 - 02:59 UTC