: : : : Beezlebub: : : : : Destruction and reconstruction, that's the way of life! A rigid system is a dead system! : : : : %%%: : : : : Yeah, I understand and agreed...but the destruction you talked about was in another way no? : : : : And can you compare physics or biology and human kind?

: : : : Beezlebub: : : : : When you want to find the truth then you must destroy the "old" theories and construct them new...again and again! : : : : Human kind? It's probably also a slave of "cause and consequence".

: : : : Greg: : : : : When you want to find the Truth, you do not destroy the old theories, rather you attempt to discover what is True or untrue about them, otherwise there can be no progress because you are always starting over again.

: : : : Mankind's progress cannot just be a matter of cause and consequence, otherwise, what would we have to aspire to?

: : : : : : Beelzebub: : : : You must slit them open without scruple and respect (I mean the theories...LOL), but never forget what you see, even if it's terrible bloody and stupid...

: : : What would we have to aspire to? That's not important, the life will go on! We will never really recognize that we have no choice...so, where is the problem?

: : If mankind is just a slave of cause and consequence, without aspiration and no choice, then what is the point of finding new theories? : : We can´t, chance them nor use them, because mankind (as a slave of cause and consequence) is not in control. : : If this is true, what is the meaning of your life? : : Don´t tell me it´s simply reproduction, because what is preventing me form killing you and : : give my genes a better chance to survive?

: : Gerwin

: Beelzebub: : We will find, use and change theories when the neurons in our brains shoot in the right combination...that depends on the "input" we will get. The input is created by the matter which surrounds us. : You will not kill me because the momentary constellation (society, laws, moral, etc.) would punish such a behavior. The momentary constellation is a result of the "matter-flow", which follows the laws of logic! : The meaning of my life? My life is a product of matter and logic...there is no meaning! We were created because it's logical that life appears when the constellation it right...and it was right!

If there is no meaning of your life, if you don't want to give a meaning of this product of matter and logic, then, I'm sad for you...

• Re: God vs Science vs Logic - Beelzebub - October 21, 1999 - 12:44 UTC
  • Re: God vs Science vs Logic - %%% - October 21, 1999 - 16:45 UTC