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Posted by Greg Armel/">Greg Armel on October 14, 1999 01:00:59 UTC

Phil.o.sofir: Finally, heated argument is gratifiying, but to put others down intentionally is unnessisary and leads to a closing off of other points of view which exist in the world of this present reality. : : Knowledge is great when combined with a flexible humility, and a little humor to boot gives a sweet taste to all of ones senses.

Greg: Beezlebub ask for arguments for the existence of God, that he could not easily disprove. I offered Him one. He could not disprove it, yet he insists on expounding upon his view that God does not exist, while continuing to ask me to prove that He does. If he will not accept the indications I offer, and he won't dispute those indications, then that indicates a closed-mind that is just being obstinate and no productive discussion is possible either way. I was not trying to put him down, but rather induce specific arguments from him. He responds by sniping my arguments, and then disputing the closing statement which was no argument at all! Give me a break! I can go to any religious forum and get that kind of debate, I come here hoping to avoid it.

Beelzebub: Which argument could I not disprove? Do you mean the big-bang? The big-bang is only a very speculative theory, when the majority of all scientists suddenly recognize it's the wrong theory then you stop to believe in God? My argumten was: You can not build up your belief on a speculation!

Or do you mean the gravity? Then you mean it's an argument for a deity that we can't explain something? The scientists can not explain why a cat purrs, that's why there must be a God? But if you want I can give you an explanation for the gravity (perhaps it's a funny theory, but it's surely more logical than to say it's God): The gravity is a distortion of the vacuum. The matter is negative vacuum - heavily compressed vacuum (dirt in the perfect nothing). This matter interacts with the vacuum and forces a distortion. This distortion is a flux of space. Near to the matter the vacuum is more compressed, that's why the matter "exists" more in the more compact vacuum, the result is a flux = gravity. Now the gravity is explained. What says God to that?

Greg: Your previous post suggested that no one could explain gravity, you became awfully enlightened in a mere 5 hours didn't you?

P.S.- And a cat purrs, and it doesn't take a PHD to realize it, because He's Happy!

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