By your definition of absolutes in math, everything can be absolute provided we do not make a math mistake. My orientation is nature or physics. The math of physics cannot be absolute ever because we can never know if the axioms, yes even the definitions, correspond to anything that is true.

BTW, Godel proved that only simple math system like plane geometry can be absolute in your sense. Sustems as complex as arithemetic are already too complex to be absolute as there are always solutions that are true but cannot be derived from the axioms of the system.

• I don't agree with you at all about that - carefuluniverse - November 15, 2001 - 21:04 UTC
  • All there is, is what/ WHO, there IS - dolphin - November 16, 2001 - 09:59 UTC
    • obviously you have escaped being a journalist - carefuluniverse - November 17, 2001 - 05:18 UTC
      • Good point - dolphin - November 17, 2001 - 06:10 UTC
        • When do they reduce -- does relativity make time 'immaterial?' - carefuluniverse - November 17, 2001 - 21:50 UTC
          • Creator creates you WHO is - dolphin - November 20, 2001 - 07:50 UTC