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Re: Sunday School Lesson For Beezel

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Posted by Beelzebub X on October 12, 1999 20:48:58 UTC

: : : I don't mean to patronize you, my lost brother, but my beleifs require that I do this. ALL of the pain, suffering, atomic bombs, disease, war etc. that beset us in this fallen world are here as a result of humanities fall from grace in the Garden of Eden. Indeed, the human condition (the fact we will all die), is a result of our sinful nature-"the penalty of sin is death". Adam was Created in the image of God, he was (or would have been), immortal. As a result of Adam's sin, God cursed the earth and all of humanity. Additionally, He gave Satan reign over this earthly kingdom, which will culminate in the Battle of Armmaggedon as described in the Book of Revelation. This all makes perfect sense if you will look at Satan as the god of discord. God's law is perfect, the physical manifestation of Satan in this world is embodied in the Second Law of Thermodynamics, which states that entropy will increase over time in a closed system. In my mind, the second law didn't exist prior to Adam's fall from Grace. This is evident in the fact that we are de-evolving as a species; the human genome is a closed system, without any new information being added, mutational errors will increase over time. If you don't beleive this, do your own research, and try to find a mutation that does not result in a loss of information.

: : : : Beelzebub: : : You wrote so much...I must split it:

: : First: We must suffer because we did faults? But god has made us, he is responsible for us. Why must we suffer for his stupidity?

: : Second: You belive in the Bible? Why?

: : Third: Satan is the god of discord? The Bible and many storys we know about god are full with discords. So, that all comes from satan?

: : Fourth: I'm not sure if I understood correctly what you wanted to say with the last sentences. You mean that mutations would only destroy a species and never evolve? And the evolution by natural selection is not possible?

: My freind, I can't honestly answer your first question, except to say there are some things we will never know on this side of eternity. God is definetly not stupid, though looking at myself, I can't say he does'nt have a sense of humor. Yes, I beleive in the Bible, perhaps you can give me a reason why I shouldn't. As far as satan being the "god of discord", that is something I made up, though I think it is a fair analogy. I have no problem with evolutionary theory as long as people don't try to make it say things the evidence does'nt allow.

Beelzebub: cannot answer my first question, but what do you think about that? Is that not very strange that god will punish us for our imperfection which he has given us? Have you a solution for that contradiction?

You believe in the Bible? Why? Humans have written it and they write much if the day is long! What makes the bible special, in your opinion?

PS: I can say nothing to your "serious problem", because I have serious problems to translate english is too poor for that. :(

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