following from more fundamental phenomena/objects (which are mathematical also) - like symmetries, supersymmetries, etc.) and "Acts of gods" - contradicting to math (natural laws) behavior, like an asteroid suddenly deviating from prescribed by math geodesics and hitting Earth (or missing it). It is like a free falling rock suddenly stopping in the air for a while to let "good" person to pass and to only kill "bad" guy. Such "Acts of gods" have never been observed (well, sure you've seen on TV movies how "joga" levitate and do other tricks with gravity, but what they do NOT show you on far shots is a tiny string or a blended with background stick on which "joga" comfortably hangs/sits. Or they show you a close-up photograph of levitating person and forget to tell you that a person is actually in jump state, frozen by a flash lamp).

So, incerting any god into infinite mathematical "cause - effect" chain requires you to explain how one end of the chain influences the other WITHOUT logical (=mathematical) connection between them.

• Please clarify - harvey1 - October 29, 2001 - 22:15 UTC
  • Clarification (for Harv) - alexander - November 5, 2001 - 10:16 UTC
  • If-thenism - harvey1 - November 5, 2001 - 21:30 UTC
    • Ooooh I think I see it clearly now... - smartguy - November 6, 2001 - 16:22 UTC
      • You got it! (nt) - harvey1 - November 6, 2001 - 16:46 UTC
• Determinism or manipulation of uncertainty? - elegantuniverse - October 29, 2001 - 22:21 UTC
  • Any example of act of god? - alexander - November 5, 2001 - 10:19 UTC