: : OK, lets get things straight here. I´m not going to lean on any one side but i do belive there could be a God. It is very probable that life evolved by itself in an unrandom way but still but still subject to change. What does that mean? It was only a question of time before life became. Life is totally based on matter and so we need to find the reason for matters existance. I belive in the big bang theory, as an origin for your modern universe, but someone or something has had to create the singularity which exploded. Therefore there is room in science for "The ultimate creator of the universe" only he didn´t create the universe in it´s current form. If someone will argue with me on that one (And i hope someone does)i don´t want any quote´s from the bible. The bible is written by gews and cristian men and has no proven truth execpt for vague historical descriptions and backrounds. And i want no replies from funny guyes.

: bzrd here: What evidence is there to suggest that "life is totally based on matter"? What about "cause and effect" with regard to big bang cosmolgy? On May 15, 1948, the United Nations formally recognized Israel; read Isaiah Chapter 66 vs. 8-10.

As far as the state of Isreal, it is much easier to follow a prewritten script (prophecy) than to create something new, all you have to do is work at it, sometimes for a long time, but this has nothing whatsoever to do with proving that god exists. As far as the united nations is concerned, they also recognize the lone religion of chrisianity by having the papal state (rome) as a U.N representative, talk about onesidedness! Is it any wonder Ireal was recognized, with this kind of offical infuence? Why was palestine not recognized during this exact same diplomatic effort? The offical explanation is becuase they refused to submit to certain requirements, but in reality these requirements would in effect say that thier religion was subordinate to christianity by defualt. The powers that be knew this and played the game toward this end. Oh, such a conspiricy, well explain any other reason, other than the official one that is!